. >> on the map right now california is reading blue in terms of the gubernatorial leading, but california, for instance, has had a whole series of republican governors. we have pennsylvania. we have new jersey, as you just mentioned. are all of these republican governors successful for very different reasons? >>. >> there's a whole swath of policy interests. and another thing that you can look at with the republican gubernatorial is diversity. you have hispanic governors in nevada. they won election of 2010. susanna martinez who got rave reviews for the convention speech at the the republican national convention. you see the republican wing in congress being very, very white. a lot of males dominating the caucus. on the governor's side you have a lot of hispanic and indiana-american governor es showing the way. >> you make the point that four of the five women serving as governors in 2013 are republicans. you look at large majorities of african-americans. latino and asian americans voting democratic, the question may be how important for the gop's future are women and minority governors t